Would like to be removed please..

Pyreal Girl · Post by **Pyreal Girl** » Wed May 28, 2003 2:08 am

It seems I'm not able to keep up with this new chain..I put in 20+ mil today and still -3mil..

However I would like to be reincerted in the orginal chain I was in please.

Sorry for any inconviences.

PG

Dax · Post by **Dax** » Wed May 28, 2003 2:41 am

Sorry to see you go. I only wish that we got to know each other better! Gl in the other chain though, and feel free to send me a hello ig!

Pyreal Girl · Post by **Pyreal Girl** » Wed May 28, 2003 6:01 am

Dax wrote:Sorry to see you go. I only wish that we got to know each other better! Gl in the other chain though, and feel free to send me a hello ig!

Aww now thats sweet but i'm not leaving the monarchy just the higher quota chain is all...so see we can still get to know one another...

PG

thray · Post by **thray** » Wed May 28, 2003 12:44 pm

PG find out why... thats technically impossible if you make 20M+ a day given our qouta is 48 mil only, thing i could see how that happens is that you dont keep your leader/loyalty buffed anyways just a suggestion before leaving.... oh and Hi!

Oof · Post by **Oof** » Wed May 28, 2003 2:09 pm

PG, try to update ACStats a few more times real quick before you make your decision about leaving.

Hunting for 20 million one day, even using pessimistic passup rates, should have resulted in at least 3.4 million passed to your patron from your hunting. Sometimes it seems to take a few times updating before the changes are reflected on the quota page, or maybe it takes your vassal updating too. Either way, please try updating a couple of more times.

I looked at your stats. Your loyalty is base 175 and buffs to 230. Your leadership is base 177 and buffs to 232. You have seven vassals, which is plenty since you have leadership trained.

Even unbuffed, your leadership is high enough to max the automatic passthrough from your chain vassal.

Buffed, your loyalty is high enough also. Loyalty needs to buff to 200 in order to max the automatic passthrough. If you let your loyalty buffs drop at all while you are hunting, you will lose some from the automatic passthrough, but probably not a lot. To be safe, you can raise your loyalty to a base of 200. Then, you are guaranteed to be passing the maximum automatic passthrough of 93.75%.

Bottom line, your quota numbers should have changed some, and I don't believe they changed any as I recall. Regardless of whether you choose to stay in the Order of Hyssop or move back to the Food Chain, you probably want to raise loyalty higher, depending on available XP. The higher your loyalty is, the larger the percentage is that is passed up from your hunting efforts. So, if you (we all, everyone in the chain) raise loyalty as high as we can stand to spend XP on it, you pass up more XP from each kill, making it easier to make quota.

If you want to move back to the Food Chain, I will certainly honor that request and post orders for you as soon as you tell me. If you want to stay in the Order of Hyssop, watch you loyalty buffs, hook in with a VoD fellowship, and raise loyalty some. Pretty soon, your quota deficit will be a thing of the long distant past.

Pyreal Girl · Post by **Pyreal Girl** » Wed May 28, 2003 2:26 pm

Okies I will try again today...yesterday I did 20+ mil the day before 10+ mil and I always look to see if it updated and it has. Also I always keep leader and loyal buffed weather I'm fighting or not so it never drops, but thank you for the advice.

I'll try again today and see what happens...thanks amd oh Hi Thray..

Just a note this is not everyday amount of XP hunting btw

PG

thray · Post by **thray** » Wed May 28, 2003 2:54 pm

ya Dont let technicalities doubt your self, if you believe you achived desire qouta then point it out if your still failing it's normally OOf fault anyways

j/k lol

Phade · Post by **Phade** » Wed May 28, 2003 3:14 pm

lol, I don't think 'blame oof' is the way to solve trouble, though I'm willing to give most things a try

Just give it a bit of time PG.. you'll be fine.

an hour or 2 in VOD 2 or 3 times a week is more than enough for this quota.

if i'm on find me and we'll go out and kill stuff

Heatmiser · Post by **Heatmiser** » Thu May 29, 2003 3:40 am

Also please remember, when you are down on quota, your daily quota just keeps chugging along.

The daily quota for Order of Hyssop chainers works out to about 1.7million a day. To pass up 1.7million, you need to make about 6.8million. So as you can see, a 10million point day isn't going to dig you out much when you are in the hole.

Example:
Lets say you are 5million behind and go hunt for 20million. That will pass up 5million into the chain. So that would catch you up right? Wrong. You are going to owe 1.7million for that day, so a 20million xp day will leave you 1.7million behind.

This is why it can be tough when you get behind. You have to make up the quota you lost, but still must keep up with your current quota which rolls on every day.

I just took a look at your data and everything seems to be fine. I don't see any other anomalies in xp on the page, Im going to assume your data is accurate. If you went a few days without uploading, it may be that your quota deficit was greater than what the page showed. (As I said, its 1.7mill a day. So if you're say, 5million down, but dont upload for 2 days, then you are actually 8.4million down. This wont show on the page since it only shows the data from your last upload.)

Another thing to consider when making up the deficit is actual earned xp vs. chain xp. If I go in and play for an hr and get 20million will all that go in to my quota? No. Im in a chain, so some of that xp came from the chain, not me. As such, it would not pass in. Only what I actually made would pass in for my quota.

Clear as mud?

Dunno if that was helpful or not, just trying to help you get back on track.

Phade · Post by **Phade** » Thu May 29, 2003 12:18 pm

If you get yourself a vassal or 2 that pass up a bit of xp that helps aswell

though its a bit hard to abduct people's vassals and force them to make you xp in slave labor tusker camps.

Oof · Post by **Oof** » Thu May 29, 2003 12:32 pm

Lol Phade. I would give you a vassal or too, but except for Oof and Borg, my other ones are are little. Their patron would be lucky to get 10 xp per week from them.