ATTN: Thorgrim and Coji. (Complete)

Oof · Post by **Oof** » Sun May 11, 2003 12:19 am

Moving Ly'Sham Slik up. This would have happened before, but I put it off until we had the chain already broken apart because of the restructure. Please do the following ASAP.

1) Ly'Sham Slik swear to Thorgrim.

2) Coji break from Thorgrim and swear to Ly'Sham Slik

3) Thorgrim set key vassal to Ly'Sham Slik

4) Ly'Sham Slik set key vassal to Coji

5) Post each step as complete.

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Mon May 12, 2003 2:56 am

I should be online Monday night 8 pm eastern time. I'll add you to my friends list.

Thorgrim

Slik · Post by **Slik** » Tue May 13, 2003 12:25 am

I am sworn to Thorgrim.

Looking for Coji

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Tue May 13, 2003 12:43 am

Got slik sworn. but I've disappeared completely from the stats page. Probably when Coji gets sworn under slik, everything will be back to normal??

THorgrim

Oof · Post by **Oof** » Tue May 13, 2003 2:09 am

Yes, mostly likely it will fix itself. Oh, I also have to ask (I know the answer

), did you set your key vassal?

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Tue May 13, 2003 3:30 am

Yep I did.

Thorgrim

Oof · Post by **Oof** » Tue May 13, 2003 2:49 pm

Cool. Thanks. We'll wait for Coji.

Coji · Post by **Coji** » Tue May 13, 2003 8:15 pm

Ill be on today, (tuesday). Sorry i didnt reply before, dont ususally read stickies. Bad habit, anyways, how long will it take to earn back the vassal/patron bonus that you get for having a long relationship with your patron?

Oof · Post by **Oof** » Tue May 13, 2003 8:28 pm

Grrr! I am not as much yelling at you Coji as I am yelling at everyone who doesn't read the stickies. It is a requirement of the chain that all chain members read the boards (the policy "recommends" daily). Believe it or not, we managers really don't write stickies just because we think it's fun, nor do we take all of the time we do helping to run the chains because we would rather do that than hunt. Venting done. I guess I feel better now.

Please get this taken care of as quickly as you can, and I do appreciate you posting in here that you have seen the thread and are working on it.

It takes 240 hours of ingame time sworn to your patron to completely rebuild the loyalty bonus. And, yes, the loyalty bonus is a big thing. Since a maxed out loyalty bonus doubles your adjusted loyalty, it can make a huge difference in the % of XP you pass up. For people who are having a hard making quota, it will make it much easier to pass up what you need to do. For people who are hunting maniacs, it allows you to pass up a lot more XP for killing the exact same number of critters.

Occasionaly having to start over on building up the loyalty bonus is one of the costs of being in the chain. However, with the Order of Hyssop, it is also something you will very seldom see, so once you build it up again, you will probably be able to keep it maxed for a very long time.

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Wed May 14, 2003 2:01 am

So how does that affect me? I didn't change patrons......

And I was just wondering, I saw on the chain stats page, that Kaszam seemed to be pushed down like 15th or something from the top.......is this just because these new peeps at the top were just insered? The reason being, is we have lower level peeps on top of kazam......is that just a screw up on the page?

Thorgrim

Oof · Post by **Oof** » Wed May 14, 2003 2:13 am

Thorgrim said (concerning loyalty bonus)

So how does that affect me? I didn't change patrons......

Changing vassals won't directly affect this for you. You will still get whatever XP is passed up to you. It will indirectly affect the amount of XP you get, in that, for every million XP your vassal hunts for, they will pass up a lower % of that until the loyalty bonus is built again. The minimum % anyone in the chain should pass up is about 20 - 25 %. Often, the slightly lower % of XP that is passed to you is offset by the fact that most new inserts hunt like crazy at first, to prove themselves in the chain.

And I was just wondering, I saw on the chain stats page, that Kaszam seemed to be pushed down like 15th or something from the top.......is this just because these new peeps at the top were just insered?

Those characters are there because of the moves that have been going on in the chain. The characters are ordered in how they show up on the chain page because one of the managers types in a number to order them in the right way. Several people disappeared from the chain listing during the last few days and were added to the listing again (they didn't actually leave the chain; they quit showing up on the chain listing). One of the things that happens when someone is added to the chain page is that they come in with a number for ranking. So they show up on top until they are sorted into the right place.

It looks confusing. It also looks like they were placed above Kazsam, but they really aren't. After I get home from work tonight, I will sort the characters into the right order. I should be home in an hour or so, and then it will take an hour or so to get the new numbers all typed in.

Coji · Post by **Coji** » Wed May 14, 2003 4:55 pm

Was on yesterday afternoon, will try again today, is there a good time for you Slik? weekend? anyways, i will keep trying to spot you and Thorgrim online.

Slik · Post by **Slik** » Wed May 14, 2003 9:57 pm

Coji, I am on now. I was on last nite but must have missed ya. I will try and be on most of the nite tonite. I am in Central Time Zone. I may be afk but I will check my chat logs if ya msg me in game and respond.

Slik · Post by **Slik** » Thu May 15, 2003 12:22 am

Coji sworn to me and ACSTATS updated. This move is complete.

Oof · Post by **Oof** » Thu May 15, 2003 12:46 am

Thank you. Marking this as complete and unstickying.