OMG the Reply to Ja-Rule's Dis is Off da Hook

Sassy · Post by **Sassy** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 11:45 am

I think most of us are pretty open-minded and we're all just having fun here

Phade · Post by **Phade** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 11:47 am

Wish I had a parrot

Pipi · Post by **Pipi** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 2:02 pm

I could go for a Parrot myself Phade. Phred it does take talent to get up to a mic and cut loose on someone to protect your rep. Oh and they don't have the stuff written down, they think it up as they go. Listen to it and make your own decision.

Hail Mary Remix 2003. Make sure it isn't the Eminem and Tupac one. If it doesn't have the name 50 Cent or Busta Rhymes in it it isn't the right one.

Kfin · Post by **Kfin** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 7:47 pm

Tricky, Portishead, Massive Attack.

If these groups dont ring a bell check em out kfin says u no be sorry.

Pee-Wee · Post by **Pee-Wee** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 2:45 am

Phade keeps wishin'... brings to mind one of my most favorite lines from a movie.

"Keep Wishin' Phade."

Burgis Meredith was funny as hell.

Janova · Post by **Janova** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:27 am

cant we all just get along lol

Phred · Post by **Phred** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 3:50 am

the sad thing is... even though they don't have it all written out before they go up on stage... they are still following a basic formula or two.

the same thing is there with any "improv" show you see on tv.... you keep a couple of thing memorized and then just "insert name here"... mix and match a little bit but quite frankly its all pretty easy after the first one or two times you;ve done it...

it gets incredible esier when you srtat rhymign words such as "shizzle, and nizzle... or durgz and thugz.. or any number of other strange combination that have little to no bearign on real life....

I havent listned to those "cuts" beucase quite frankly it is a stupid chidish waste of time..... especially for peopel who are "makin dough" from doign somethign that easy...

and to prove jsut how easy it is... I will now bust out a rhyme coprised of all etierly real words that you can find in an eglish dictionary... I will try to keep my misspellign to a minimum but we all know how I type soemtimes

Hello you fool,
I am the Bard
I may not sound liek Tool,
But I rhyme it pretty hard
So relax, lean back
Set your load on my rack
My thoguth may seem to lack
But My words will not lose track
You think to come to me
Saying you come peacefully,
Yet you are wavieng around your guns
Liek everyoen one else here was raised by nuns
I personally wont stand
For what is stated otu of hand
by someone from my homeland
who by allrights shoudl; be canned
For they try to speak for me
abotu how my country tis of thee
but all is not what they see
for they cant hear themselves plea
Get up, stand up?
No sit down, shut up!
You want to come in my face?
I guess its time I rearrange your face.
with a set of little tweezers,
but you may call them pleasers,
for the secodn that they appear,
the crowd will start to cheer,
becuase I'm better than you,
not becuase I say I am,
but becuase I refuse to to stoop,
to where your gutter slime might droop
and becuase I like to eat ham,
not smoke a "blunt" with you.
My rhymes might be stange,
but their casually arrnaged
to my whims upn this page
not becuase I dotn want to be upsatged
You microphone may fry,
but my quill wont cease to fly
for I'm a literarry paradox,
and I've opend up pandoras box
Since when is this not easy?
my point is made, not measley
So come again when you have grown
to be withought sin so you may cast the irst stone.

(this "busted rhyme" took me approximatle 2 minutes and 38 seconds to write...not includeing a quick once over to fix obvious spellign erros that coudl have effected word interpretation)

Thank you and have a nice day....

Phred · Post by **Phred** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 4:02 am

and here is a song that is missing one verse becuse I intilly wrote the firt two down and then I started again on a differ peice of paper later to finish the sogn but I coultn remerbe the seocnd verse....if you take offesne easily...dotn read...if you with to argue theology or moralityof any statements made within the following... remeber, this song is not actually to breed hate.. it actually point out where there are problems in todays society... as to who we listen to for what reasons that dotn make sense...

Kill all the white people,
Kill all the Blacks,
Put all fo the politics,
Under my axe.

<missing verse>

Light up the fires
Start a new blaze,
Build it to last,
Till the end of days.

Kill all the dealers,
and take all theri drugs,
Tear down theri houses,
and kill all theri thugs,

Drown all the beuracrats
In the same F****ng moat
Sher all the papers
They uselessly wrote

All the republicans
I'd burn and I'd smite
Turn to the democrats
And crush them with might

Meticulously rape,
the eco-nut wh***s
Then chop up their bodies
and feed them to boars

Place all fo the athletes
into one cage
blow of fthier limbs
with loaded 12 guage

Now I say,
Down with the man,
Kill em my way
As fast as you can
Here I go,
To push forth my plan,
Itys only so so
But I dotn give a damned

Damned the man
Kill the man
And uncle sam
Kill the man.

SMT · Post by **SMT** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 10:59 pm

Phred, its clear to me you should become a rapper then, seeing u have it all figured out and all

Phred · Post by **Phred** » Tue Apr 22, 2003 1:15 am

its not about rap or anything.. its a matter of theory.... if rap is consideered music then it follows musical theory...(yes.. people actually go to colledge to study this)... words to any form of music tend to follow poetic theory... aka, the follow s certain rythm or beat.. follow a rhyme scheme....etc. with any form of poetry you start off and you have some pretty lame rhyms.. but after soem practice you end up haveing certain sets of words memorized....cat, bat, hat, that, rat, mat....you get the idea... and no matter what you are writeing or "freestyleing" you are pullign from various sets of words to put across what you are tryign to say... every form of art has differing styles.. music is the same... poetry is the same... a person style will invariabel change over time.. but over short periods (days, months, years) you will not be abel to follow too much of a difference.. no matter what the person is tryign to place upon you as an impression. if you go through nakamuro's archives and everythign I have written on these baords and others... and you write down the last word of every line you see... you will find patterns in what I have written... even though the differnt poems or songs tell different stories... they are all comprised fo similar word groupings....

you can do the same with all of eminems works, the Beatles, Metallica, Ja rule, if an artist has mroe than one work accedited to them... you will be able to trace similar rhymes between almsot every one of their works. to freestyle off a list of insults means that you have practiced differnt rhyme sets that work with insulting other people... even if oyu are makeing it up as you go... you arn't you will naturally follow the same patterns you have in practice...even if you rearrnge the order that the words appear in or the rest of any particullar line to have it mean somethign else... the rhyme is still the same.

Here is an example of how the same rhyme sets can be used to convey differnt meaning...

I live in a box,
A transient with pox,
To live my life alone,
Untill I'm ashes from bone.

On you I cast a pox,
On you and you alone,
Out from this tiny little box,
It will seep into your bone.

The first is a homeless person who feels that they are goign to die alone

The secodn is soem sort of voodoo spell beign cast on someone... hard to tell the differnce....no?

yet they are bothe comprised to the exact same rhymes....

now....you sped a year or so of your life sayign word sets over and over in differetn ways and you'll be able to freestyle lik ethe best of them.. not becuase you will be abel to make somethign up off the top of your head.. but because you will jsut say them naturally withought haveign to search for the right word that rhymes with another and still makes sense.

Rap is a form of poetry... and poetry is my playground....I know the rules better than one might think upon sight... and I know how to use them... a person new to the playground sees others playing a game with seemign no effort, when they try to play they find it nearly impossible to keep up so they keep playing and practicing untill they can...do not mistake practice for talent... for when someone has talent.. they dont need to spen nearly as much time practicing to learn the new rules of a differnt game... my playground ismostly rock... but I can still see the rules of every other game on my playground.

EDIT: here is thread on the odins fury boards from when I started a Bardic War with them.... analyze the actually rhymes form both sides of it... you'll see some similarities even though by trying to one up eachother we were actually trying to avoid overuse of any particuallar rhyme http://www.odinsfury.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=2342

DL · Post by DL » Tue Apr 22, 2003 1:53 am

Poetry is also my forte and I've been writing it for 30 yrs. Some is good, some is bad and some is downright awful...but it's still poetry...lol

I agree with Phred on the fact that anyone can take selective words and rhyme them into one continuous free flowing verse that to many Rappers and their fans seems to make sense. Every verse sung, strummed, hummed to a tune or beat has rhyme/rhythm.. if not ...it will fail. Rap is the easiest to write...it is free verse with twisted words and rhyme that truly have no melody but I can appreciate it's rhythm.....it is poetry in the rawest form. FREE VERSE...not Traditional poetry...not Conventional....it's FREE VERSE....free verse is the easiest to write and the easiest to understand....rarely is there an enigma to free verse.

For the most part, Rap is crass and full of shock factor....the more it shocks... the more popular it becomes for fans. Many people like it simply because of the profanity...DOH!....profantiy is not the best way to get a message across despite what some or many might think. However, it makes the bucks and draws the fans in....I never would have bet my money on Rap still being around when it first hit the scenes...how little did I understand my fellow humankind. This same group would laugh their asses off at my poetry calling it dumb...sissy fied....silly...etc Yet.... they listen to rhyming words tossed together and called Rap that any grade school child could write.

That's my 2 cents....lol

Pee-Wee · Post by **Pee-Wee** » Tue Apr 22, 2003 4:15 am

You ever watch someone who is obviously not a writer, unsteadily try to make a poem, and all it is are words that rhyme?

That is what Rap is to the music world.