Request for help. All FC and OH members please read.

[Oof]

The chain seems to have been working pretty well the last few days, at least in sections of it. The lower section needs some help and helping them will only help the rest of us too. Out of the 106 characters showing in the chain listing only 23 of them are below 126. As scary (#s of high levels in the chain, I mean) as that might sound to some, here's something more scary. We can have every one of the sub-126s to 126+ in less than 3 weeks!

Right now, the credit column in the chain listing totals 6.1 BILLION XP. That's not the total amount of XP hunted, or the total amount of XP passed up in the chain. That's the total amount of XP the chain members have made that is over and above the quota requirement. It's an insane amount of XP generated by a chain that trys hard to earn it's XP without breaking the CoC. We have some people in the chain who know how to hunt.

Here's is what I am asking each and every chain member to do during the next 3 weeks: Hunt at least one buff cycle in a fellowship with one or more of the pushers (info on who & where will be a separate post). Prove me right or prove me wrong over the next 3 weeks, but my guess is that if we get enough participation every single one of the sub-126s will be 126+ in the next 3 weeks.

There have been pros and cons tossed out before about the effectiveness of pushers, and how far up the chain is the XP seen, but bottom line is that a pusher program is the most effective way to create stupid amounts of XP without breaking the game and clan's CoC against macroing.

Yes, the people within 10 characters or so of the pushers will see the most immediate impact from the XP, but think about this for a minute. Even for the OH members (and keep in mind Oof is 100 positions or so up from the bottom), we will still see an major benefit from this. As people hit 126 some of them will want to move to the OH and then the OH has new feeders coming in. As the XP increases at the bottom, the bottom people will hunt more, generating additional XP on top of the XP passed in from the pushers.

Pushers work but in order to see the kind of impact I'm talking about we need to have nearly everyone in the chain participate. I'm only asking for one buff cycle per week. More will obviously be better, but donating just one buff cycle per week (for most people) won't hurt anyone. I know that some people have very limited playing time and at times can barely keep up with quota. I'm not asking anyone to hurt themselves here, but to simply donate one (or more ) buff cycles per week if they can afford to take the minimal hit it might cause on their quota numbers. If you get lucky and donate your buff cycles to the pushers while other are hunting you'll come out ahead anyway because of the fellowship bonus.

For the bottom 10 or 11 positions in the chain, you should hunt almost exclusively with the pushers because you will get the most immediate impact of anyone in the chain.

Anyway, think about it hunting with them. Feel free to post your comments here, positive or negative. If I have to, I'll work out the numbers again to show that pushers work, but I'm hoping to go ingame and maybe hunt with a pusher some instead.

Thank you for your time in reading this. I truly am interested in reading what you have to say about using pushers to boost the XP flow into the chain.

[Oof]

Currently, Gidd is a pusher who is on top of the VoD LS.

He's been on vacation and so has been gone recently but is back now. We have two or three other people who are in the process of getting sworn into the right place. I'll list their names as soon as they're ready. Another BM may occasionally pull pusher duty on the VoD LS, but only if I go by and there is no pusher there at the time.

[Phade]

Any pushers for AL?

if so i'll start tonight

[Panzerfaust]

If there isn't, I'll put TS in the marketplace.

[Oof]

Panzer, please go ahead and put Trouser Snake in the NW room of the marketplace. If you park him upstairs on that walkway you'll have fewer people running up to you and asking for buffs.

Also, as a reminder to everyeon, the marketplace shares XP without loss with both the dungeons on AL and with the dungeons on Asheron's Island. So, you can have 2 or 3 people hunting in one of the big XP monkey dungeons and have 2 or 3 people hunting in the 80+ bug dungeon on Asheron's Island and they will all be sharing XP without loss. Very cool.

Since I hear some Swarm Mutilators calling my name I'll go by the marketplace later tonight when I get on again and look for you.

[Panzerfaust]

Putting him there now. He has auto accept fellow

[acaddict]

This post may offend some people and if it does, you are probly one of those people I'm speaking of!

From what I've seen so far on the pusher program, there are far too many people in this chain not willing to work for what they receive. Expecting everything to be given to them for nothing is sorta like welfare.

In order for me to get a pay check, I must work hard. If i want a larger pay check, I must work harder. Same goes with the pusher program!

You all will see a great benefit if you please just donate 3 buff cycles over the next 3 weeks.

My guess is that this will fall on deaf (welfare ears) again and only 4 or 5 of us will hunt with the pushers! Then everyone will think, ok, this is bogus and does nothing for me and Oof's point will not be proven only because of the refusal of the many chain members not willing to give a little.

Please just do it! You can do all 3 weeks in one setting if ya like, just contribute 3 buff cycles within the next 3 weeks.

[acaddict]

I would like to go up to the pusher once and see he/she is already in a fellow! That alone will astonish me!

[Oof]

I usually try to be pretty gentle with all of my posts, but I am going to agree with Acaddict here. An XP chain, by definition, exists for leveraging the XP system built into the game and giving the chain members more XP than they could earn in the same time on their own. LD operates three different chains (or three sections of the one chain, if you prefer). Again, by definition, the FC and the OH are for those members who want more XP than is offered by the CC and who are willing to work for it.

There have been probably four or five people out of the entire chain who have consistently fellowed with the pushers. Most of the rest of the chain members, as far as I can tell from looking at BM's logs and talking to the pushers, never hunt with the pushers. What a strong pusher program can do for a chain has been proven over and over again in a handful of chains, but it takes a lot of hunting sessions with the pushers to make apparent what the program can really do for the XP coming into the chain. That means that either a few people hunt a lot with the pushers, which is absolutely unfair to them, or everyone hunts even just a small amount.

When there are two people in a fellow (one hunter, one pusher) the XP split is 75% each. That means for a single person to hunt with a pusher, that person is giving up 25% of the XP they would normally have gotten. For one person hunting for one buff cycle, that's not a lot of XP to give up in return for what the chain gets. Even at 20 million an hour, its means the hunter gives up 5 million earned XP (the missing 25%), but the pusher earns 15 million (the 75% split). With the loyalty pusher's should have, 5 million of the XP will go directly into the bottom of the chain. Multiply that times the number of characters in the chain and see what you get.

For Acaddict to hunt nearly every night with the pusher, or for Highto last to hunt often in the early mornings with the pushers (there are a few other people too, but these will do as examples) helps a lot with creating an XP flow into the bottom of the chain. It also means that a significant portion of that XP is felt far up the chain, and in some fashion, is felt all of the way to the top. It isn't fair to those people who hunt with the pushers to be literally donating a portion of their XP to all of the other people in the chain who don't do anything extra in return.

No, it is not a requirement for people in the chain to help with the pusher program, but it is giving back to the chain in a very tangible way. It also means a big increase in the daily XP going to everyone if enough people in the chain will participate. No, we are not changing the chain rules to require people to hunt with the pushers. Yes, as long as you contribute your 6 million, or 12 million, per week to the chain you are doing everything you are required to do. Donating a buff cycle per week just makes good sense though and, again, if enough people contribute a buff cycle (or more), you will get back enough additional XP from the chain to make up many times over the little bit you lose while hunting in a pusher fellow.

I know this post is long, but I think my ranting is done. If you are one of the people who DO hunt with the pushers, good for you. Invite a chain member friend to go with you the next time. Recruit one of the lowers to go with you while you fellow with the pusher; it will make an even bigger difference to the chain. Now I'm done.

[highto]

hi all. One thing i know for sure is i would not be were i am without this chane we all should be willing to give back to what has already given us so much.

[acaddict]

Ok, finished my 3 buff cycles and gidd went from 77-79 and again i had no problem getting him in a fellow. Like I said, I would be astonished to see him in a fellow other than mine!

3 of the 5 people in my fellow were not even in this monarchy!!!!!!!

Plz just do yur part all and contribute 3 buff cycles in the next 3 weeks.

[Oof]

I know that Naus has been fellowing quite a bit with the pusher in the MP (Naus REALLY likes to kill bugs ). I have been hunting some with one or more or the pushers, but my game time has been pretty limited lately.

If you hunt with the pushers, please post here when you did so, at least for a week or two, to let the other chain members know the pushers are actually being used. (I may even start a new thread for "Pusher Fellows Post Here")

[Nauscicaa]

I try to put in one or two buff cycles a day fellowed with the MP pusher (TS in this case) and Bombur. It's not only nice for Bombur, who makes quota with no problem but it pumps 120% of the XP into the sub126 part of the chain too, which is about 20-30 mill per hour depending on the number of other people in the dungeon.

[Olorin]

I've worked in fellows with 3 of the ones under 126 in FC this week and have on others in other weeks. I also help several in CC too. Ac I think there are far more then 5 people who do this though. In fact I know there is many more then 5 people in OH that help out the lower members in our FC & CC, cause they are in fellows with me most of the time. We always seem to have 1-2 lower FC(Under 126) and CC people with us.

Olo'rin

[Thewho]

Hello
i want present myself first

i been away from ac1 for long time , i use to play when Zat was my king and for who remember him when Aaragon/zojak quati was my patron,

after walking around from Daoc To Ac2 im back to ac1

is 8 days im in the food chain ,
i use to hunt whit my wife Mariann' lvl 76 ( loyalty spec 300 buffed)
im currently lvl 92 (loyalty 210 buffed, going to raise more and more )

me and my wife will like to enjoy any xpfellow in the week ends,

if is possible