Xp Pass-up Calculator

Korosu · Post by **Korosu** » Mon May 26, 2003 1:07 pm

Nice little calculator. Use it to determine xp pass up etc.

http://rain.prohosting.com/obp/calc.html

Country Evil · Post by **Country Evil** » Mon May 26, 2003 9:22 pm

Wow, that's a great way of demonstrating just how fubar'ed the whole alliegance system in AC is.

Leadership really IS a worthless skill.

*goes off to make some posts on the Bazaar.* >=[

Dave_Mustaine · Post by **Dave_Mustaine** » Mon May 26, 2003 11:10 pm

I had no idea how little passup we were really making. I have always used the 25% rule of thumb for hunting passup. It's more like 18%. Thanks for showing me this.

Feeny · Post by **Feeny** » Mon May 26, 2003 11:25 pm

please that was the biggest load for BS i have ever seen, even i can make a program to add random numbers apperar bettwen x variable and y variable

Country Evil · Post by **Country Evil** » Mon May 26, 2003 11:38 pm

Feeny wrote:please that was the biggest load for BS i have ever seen, even i can make a program to add random numbers apperar bettwen x variable and y variable

Wow, 16 posts and already acting like a tool.

Nice.

Oof · Post by **Oof** » Mon May 26, 2003 11:41 pm

I'm not sure about the math they use in that calculator page (I'm not saying it's wrong, yet). Other leadership/loyalty calculator have consistently shown higher numbers than what that page calculates though. I seem to recall 20% - 25% being typical for loyalty that was around 200 base. I'll see if I can find some of the other ones for comparison sake.

One thing for sure though, if you use this calculator to figure out how much you need to hunt in order to make quota, you won't go wrong.

My gut feeling is the calculations are a little bit on the pessimistic side. The only way to know for sure is to run some tests on someone who is newly sworn to a patron, and on someone who has 240 hours of ingame sworn time and compare the numbers, but I'm too busy/lazy to do that.

Dave_Mustaine · Post by **Dave_Mustaine** » Tue May 27, 2003 12:31 am

I too recalled higher numbers Oof, but then i just checked back to an old calculator that I've been using for a while, and got the same 18%.

Oof · Post by **Oof** » Tue May 27, 2003 12:42 am

Well, that's just icky.

I'm raising my loyalty to 300 (buffed, of course)

Korosu · Post by **Korosu** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:26 pm

I am not 100% sure, but i think i remember reading a thread on this way back. That 18% is not the end of things. A guy did a big write up on the system and i think it had a little input from devs. Once you make that 18%, it gets adjusted again by your patrons leadership, time sworn in-game etc. etc. I think the final number was around 125% of what you pass up, ie: you pass a million...if the stats are right patron will suck 1.250 million up. Not 100% sure...but i remember reading something like that. I am trying to track the write up, if anyone else remembers, can you please post it here.

Korosu/Troec

Oof · Post by **Oof** » Tue May 27, 2003 5:06 pm

Here is a short version of how XP generation and passup works, followed by a link to the leadership/loyalty article people seem to reference more than any other.

XP from your vassal
As your vassal hunts, a certain percentage of the XP generated gets passed into the allegiance system. That XP goes into a "pool" that is periodically emptied into your patron's XP (it isn't real-time transfer of XP to your patron). The patron's leadership skill determines how much of the XP in the pool is transferred to the patron. The amount ranges from 68% to 125%. With an effective leadership of 163, you will pull 125% of the XP

Thatâ€™s what you GET from your vassal. The most you can pass UP from your vassal is 75% of what you get. I know itâ€™s weird. The most XP you can pass through from your vassal to your patron is 93.75% (125% times 75%). With an effective leadership of 200, you will pass up 75% of what you get from your vassal.

So, with an effective leadership of 163 and an effective loyalty of 200, you will automatically passthrough 93.75% of the XP you receive from your vassals.

XP generated from hunting
As you hunts, you will put a percentage of the XP you earn into the XP pool for your patron. This XP is extra, it doesnâ€™t come out of your XP at all. This is the XP that the 19%, or 25%, or whatever is referring to in the posts above this one. Basically, the higher your loyalty is, the higher percentage of XP you pass up from your hunting. That also means that as you raise your loyalty, you donâ€™t have to hunt quite as hard in order to make quota. Supposedly the minimum amount of XP you can pass up is 8.9% of what you earn from hunting. The actual percentage is what people donâ€™t seem to agree on. I have heard for a long time that typical pass up rates are 20% - 25%, and that pass up rates can go as high as about 40%, depending on certain factors.

The URL here http://www.allglobaltravel.com/dkod/lead_loyal.htm is a copy of Oberionâ€™s original essay on Crossroads of Dereth. I canâ€™ get to CoD from work because of the firewall, so this is the link you get.

It has all of the nauseating details of how all of this stuff is figured out.

Korosu · Post by **Korosu** » Tue May 27, 2003 6:55 pm

That is the write up i ran into, a copy but the same wording. Thankyou. I think a clan had a copy of that on there website.

Oof · Post by **Oof** » Tue May 27, 2003 7:02 pm

yw

I just noticed this morning too that I was posting in the Casual Chain forum, but since Buffy is in the Casual Chain, and I run Buffy, I guess it's okay.

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