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So what's going on with the chain?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:48 am
by Phade
I'm showing as upload now, want to know if I should upload then fix quota (if thats possible? will it still show the correct numbers?)
is there any information at all?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:38 pm
by Heatmiser
We are currently planning on some basic policy and database changes.
For now, everyone's numbers are going to be a little screwy.
We'll let you guys know what's going on soon.
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:29 pm
by Nakamuro Zataki
The chain config files for quota calculations etc was just updated, if the numbers look fishy... then something might be wrong.
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:15 pm
by Coji
i am confused as to what i am supposed to be doing right now. i have recieved 80 million for the last two weeks. Am i supposed to still be making quota? what is quota? are we still in a chain right now? i havent uploaded because there seems to be no point, but please tell me what i am supossed to be doing as an OH toon
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:41 pm
by Heatmiser
Upload as usual. You're still in a chain and should still be making quota.
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 1:24 am
by Trekman
Heatmiser wrote:Upload as usual. You're still in a chain and should still be making quota.
As of now I am ONE BILLION in surplus - I guess I can learn to like the new system

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 5:46 pm
by Andiglo
Previously we had a bunch of people that did not play in the chain. My vassel has 69.7% passup, I NEVER get any xp anymore.
Can we remove those who don't play in the chain? If somebody isn't playing, passup is horrible.

XP chain future
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:26 am
by Blue Wizard
And I am billions in surplus and gettng little in return when I have just about the highes leader and loyalty. Please enlighten me here or in PM as to possible changes. If not I will request to be moved under our mule in the food chain, so at least I get some beneift.
Heatmiser 204 2004-03-05 Passed 50.6% 16 days 110 305 1,258,001,807 511,227,983 28,941,607 482,286,376 1,256,698,427
Blue Wizard 171 2004-03-07 Passed 311.8% 17 days 327 336 2,008,603,455 1,183,186,508 21,387,593 1,161,798,915 391,925,777
Andiglo 163 2004-03-06 Passed 105.9% 12 days 97 260 486,464,485 273,131,103 12,132,471 260,998,632 284,628,711
Vlad 180 2004-02-29 Upload 69.7% 7 days 292 286 291,166,387 152,286,510 12,097,603 140,188,907 254,699,892
Illumination 138 2004-03-07 Passed 150.6% 13 days 250 262 819,409,843 389,324,863 12,637,017 376,687,846 276,865,418
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:40 am
by Heatmiser
I guess it's just going to be a matter of getting used to the way chains work now. You're flat out just not going to get as much as you used to.
According to the numbers your vassal has passed you 273milllion xp in the past 12 days. Nowhere near what you used to get, but again, chains have been nerfed. 273million may not be the greatest, but its not exactly chicken scratch either. That's almost enough for the last point to max out a stat and you basically got it for free, so that's not exactly a bad thing.
I've passed up half a billion, again not what my patron is used to but nothing to scoff at either.
That said, we are however, going to be adjusting quota to be more in line with the changes. Quota will be increased to keep everyone honest and make the chain more worthwhile. Admittedly the timetable for this is slower than what I would like. (I wanted it increased already.) But, being a team player, I'm willing to wait until the rest of management can agree on what the quota needs to be increased to. I hope everyone else is also willing to give us a chance to try to work through this difficult time.
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:28 am
by Panzerfaust
Adjust the date to a few days and you'll see who has hunted. Looks like about half.
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:40 am
by Oof
In case anyone didn't get what Panzer meant by adust the date to a few days, change the date in the little white From: box at the top of the stats page screen to show only the last week or so. If you set the all the way to yesterday's date you can get some pretty weird results, so make sure and back it up to include at least a couple of days. A week or so is probably a good time frame to give you an idea of what is really going on with the chains, hunting, etc.
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:01 am
by Heatmiser
Also, keep in mind that there are indeed many people who I'm not sure are really making much xp.
For one, as has already been stated, the shock factor, where understandably many have thrown up their hands and given up so to speak, as far as earning xp.
Secondly however, we need a much higher quota now and have yet to implement it. One thing I've learned from my years of chaining is people work as hard as you make them.
Easy quota = low or no xp.
High quota = great xp.
In the new chain system a high quota will be what it takes to keep the chain worthwhile.
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:38 pm
by Phade
With the quota still being 12 mil a week for the OH, and now with the percentage passed up being so much higher, you only have to make 20 mil or so to pass up the 12 and be done with quota for the week
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:24 am
by Oof
Adjusting the quota is phase number two Phade. Getting people to meet the current quota is phase number one.

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:00 pm
by Phade
lol, well maybe I was jumping the gun a bit then
