Ash teeth DO count as passup! **PROOF INSIDE**

Lagmatic · Post by **Lagmatic** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 7:57 pm

I went to the ash tooth guy, logged to update acstats.
screenshot 1: acstats.http://www.outland.net/~jon/proof1.jpg
Logged back in, handed in tooth, then logged to update acstats.
screenshot 2:http://www.outland.net/~jon/proof2.jpg

Obviously my passup is borked, maybe I am missing loyal bonus or something, but you can see there clearly is passup. Unless you're suggesting I got 2M passup for casting portal recall once.

NO, I did not kill any mobs or do anything other than run to the tent and hand in the tooth between screenshots.

Compadre · Post by **Compadre** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 9:38 pm

hrm. where do you turn them in and where does the xp go, hehe.

Lagmatic · Post by **Lagmatic** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 10:06 pm

They only work on Cooking/Alchy/Fletching skills.

=)

you turn them in at GW. details on maggies

Nakamuro Zataki · Post by **Nakamuro Zataki** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 10:13 pm

Ranger, is the earned field based on total xp or on xp to patron?

Lagmatic what you should have done is take a picture of your allegiance window showing the numbers there before and after.

Lagmatic · Post by **Lagmatic** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 10:15 pm

Nakamuro Zataki wrote:Ranger, is the earned field based on total xp or on xp to patron?

I was told quite a few times on my other thread it was xp-to-patron.

Now you question it!

If it is total xp, rather than xp-to-patron, then we need to re-look at my other thread and find out what the problem is there.

Either way, I'm not insane! =)

Nakamuro Zataki · Post by **Nakamuro Zataki** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 10:16 pm

I would be really suprised if the xp is passed up. Need to check the acstats page code.

...you post too quick...

Nakamuro Zataki · Post by **Nakamuro Zataki** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 10:30 pm

From Lagmatic's screenshots :

xp to raise cooking : 306860483 for a full point
xp from vassals : 1124192
xp earned : 76826482
xp credit : 2432103

time : 181 seconds

My take on what happened.

xp into cooking : 25% of 306M is 76715120
xp from vassals : 125% of 1124192 is 1405240
xp to patron : 75% of 1405240 is 1053930

total xp earned : 78120360

These numbers does not really match, I guess the difference is because of passup buffering that turbine implemented a few patches ago.

The important fact here is that only about 1M was added upwards, this is probably due to the passup from vassal buffer being almost empty and the passup to patron buffer almost full. If the ash tooth had been passed up to patron then in the range of 20-30M would have been added to patron, which is not the case.

Conclusion : Ash tooth does not add xp to patron passup. Earned is increase in total xp.

Compadre · Post by **Compadre** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:29 pm

owned.

Lagmatic · Post by **Lagmatic** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:42 am

Nakamuro Zataki wrote: Conclusion : Ash tooth does not add xp to patron passup. Earned is increase in total xp.

Then we have a problem don't we? If earned is based on total, then explain where the 1/2 billion in my other thread went!

Lagmatic · Post by **Lagmatic** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:43 am

Compadre wrote:owned.

I just pointed out a major flaw in the way we calculate things. How exactly did that own me?

Nakamuro Zataki · Post by **Nakamuro Zataki** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 1:06 am

Noone is owned or pwned.

If there are things unclear then posting about them is a good idea. We want to encourage that.

Nakamuro Zataki · Post by **Nakamuro Zataki** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 2:09 am

Lagmatic, earned is the increase in total xp.

Remember the 21 day window, if your hunting pattern changed it can have funny effect on those numbers, where you hunt and the earned decreases. This effect is minimized if you upload regularly.

Lagmatic · Post by **Lagmatic** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 1:33 pm

My vassal xp doesn't count towards how far I get ahead of quota. If anything, that should put me BEHIND quota.

Look at the Quota field...

Nakamuro Zataki · Post by **Nakamuro Zataki** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 1:53 pm

Lag can you post numbers here and include your reasoning.

Much easier to follow your line of thought then.

Dumoss · Post by **Dumoss** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 4:59 pm

Nakamuro Zataki wrote:Ranger, is the earned field based on total xp or on xp to patron?
.

Earned field is what you received from vassal + personal hunting in that period.

Number is not calulated, and provided as is from ACStats.

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Ash teeth DO count as passup! PROOF INSIDE

Ash teeth DO count as passup! PROOF INSIDE