Just a quick question, (AGAIN) (chain managers)

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 1:15 am

Hiya guys. Just a quick question to calm my conscience.

I uploaded late last week. (boom---104%) ok fine. no problem right? SWEET.

Today (tuesday) I play all day, make rougly 110million gross exp's. Here we go again. Upload (BOOM------------104%??????) I'm just wondering. feeling a bit paranoid......LOL

I'm going away for a few days at the end of the week. But with numbers like thse, I wonder........."will I be ok till I return?" I'm terrified

MUAHHAA Does the 24 mill pass up still count? Can a person still make quota in abundance for a vaction from time to time? *(EI: My wife is due in July, I wil have to take time off then I'm sure, lets be realistic of course) MUAHAHA

Does this make sense? If it does, I'm sorry guys. I'm just use to seeing bigger numbers after a game day session of over a 100 mill made. Thats all.

CIAO,
Thorgrim

Oof · Post by **Oof** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 1:23 am

I'm sure you'll be fine Thorgrim. You hunt well, so I'm sure your quota can survive a few days off. If you happen to dip a little below passing I'm sure you will make it up right away after you get back. I suspect you won't go below Pass though.

Dave_Mustaine · Post by **Dave_Mustaine** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 1:58 am

Ok well, unless you signed onto 200 million xp, your passup% should have gone up significantly.

If you updated last Friday, then between Friday and Tuesday you might have received 120-180 million XP. This would have made you accountable for 7.5 (or 30 earned) to 11.25 (or 45 million earned) million XP passed up.

Hunting for 100 million passes up around 25-30 million XP. So, even still, your % should have gone up.

I don't want to dismiss this too quickly. Let's keep this thread alive until we get something from an ACStats Admin. When I hunt, my % goes up, and I usually hunt in bursts of 20 mill xp and I can still notice a difference in passup percentage.

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:03 am

SO I'M NOT CRAZY!!!!!!!!! Thank you Dave. I truely felt paranoid about this, but Alas, I'm not imagining things.

I plan another day of hunting tomorrow like I did today. (very similar activities) either more exp's or approximately the same (toughly 110 million raw xp's)

Thanks again Dave. (MEGADETH RULEZ!!)

Thorgrim

Dave_Mustaine · Post by **Dave_Mustaine** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:05 am

Yeah, there seems to be a pattern with you and that is giving me some concern. I am wondering whether the fact that you upload such large numbers, (as a result of your hunting all in one shot) if that in and of itself is causing problems. Obviously I'm not about to sit here and demand that you hunt in smaller bursts, so if that is the issue then that is something we, the admins, need to take care of.

Not too long ago there were issues with certain people's data not being accepted at all. I had to go on Downy's computer just for my upload to go through.

Do me a favor bud and double check to make sure you have the latest version of ACStats and Decal (but don't get the Beta unless you want to). Then make sure your key vassal is set (updating ACStats often clears the key vassal) and that your URL is still there.

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:10 am

one last thing, Just overlooking my notes that I keep (I'm silly that way) when I hunt, and I noticed I actually made roughly 122 million today, and not the original 110 million.

I uploaded I believe on Thursday night (I think) and made roughly 200 + million. I'd wager as far as saying 300 mill from chain since Thursday. (Yet, oddly enough it even seems like I lost 100 mill somewhere in unassigned exp's...........NOW THATS WIERD) but thats probably just me over looking one of the MILLIONS of exp's I have saved. or should I say......BILLION (1.5 billion saves so far) why? What can I say......

But even so. do the numbers still not make sense? Alas, I am at the mercy of the acstats admins. Thanks guys,

Thorgrim

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:12 am

Ok just read your last message. I'll double check the key vassal thing asap. (As for decal and the like. All should be most recent)

Brb.

Thorgrim

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:20 am

ok. Everything looks ok. Key vassal is set, all versions current. etc. Acstats, or lastdynasty.net seems to pick up. I get my new level, key vassal is set correctly there also. But like you said, perhaps if I received over 200mill on sighn in, It might have made the numbers bogus. etc.

Again, I do plan another HUGE day of exp hunting. at least 100 mill + and I do plan another upload. We'll see again what happens.

Thanks (I await any response)

Thorgrim

Dave_Mustaine · Post by **Dave_Mustaine** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:25 am

Ok, if your last upload was thursday night, and your next was Tuesday evening, then yes, it's entirely plausible that all that XP you received during the weekend "watered down" the gain you made on your thursday powerleveling session.

Just remember for every 100 million XP you receive, you are accountable for making up 6.25 million of it (assuming you have max pass-through, which you do) That's 24 million hunted. In your case the numbers look...not disturbingly off. Let's keep an eye out for what happens after your next powerleveling session. If there's still no noticable increase in your PU % we'll throw up some flags.

Also, keep in mind, the higher above 100% you get, the harder it is to get even higher. Again this has to do with the 25% loyalty rate. Percentages are just weird this way. It's easier to get from 93.75% to 100% then it is to get from 100% to 106.25% , in other words.

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:30 am

Thank you for your very fast replies. *hats off* to you.

Thorgrim

Dave_Mustaine · Post by **Dave_Mustaine** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:34 am

lol, it just so happened that we were both trollin' at the same time

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 1:28 am

Ok Dave, I played again today, and made a WHOPPING 120 million again today (give or take 5 million........)

I upload, and I'm at 106%. Ok its gone up. that make sense now? I know what you said about %'s. funny thing after 100% etc. But I look at other people, at like...115% and such. Just wondering thats all. Thats about 230 mill roughly over two days. (Plus it appears I'll have another VERY productive day again tomorrow since I have the day off again) MUAHHAHAA

The problem is for me, is normally when I pull a few days of hunting like this. (USUALLYONE WILL DO) I can walk away from the pc and relax a bit. But my quota would reach SKY high after a playing session like this. Not stay the same, or go up 2 small percentile points.

It doesn't seem right to me. I really find a lot of the numbers appear to be arbitrary. (they seem to mean nothing...as many people have the same exact numbers) I know the new stat board is Just that. NEW. I just find it strange thats all.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Thorgrim

Dave_Mustaine · Post by **Dave_Mustaine** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 2:31 am

Panzer has a theory that he's working on. I'm not sure what the result of that is. According to your numbers, the only way you should be getting the results you're getting is if you were to like, debuff your own leadership and loyalty skills before you log.

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 3:01 am

ok. that DEFINATLY doens't happen. I totally make sure mine are always buffed up. The only time that I logged without them buffed would be when I got caught in game a few times. (months ago??)

It truely doesn't make sense. I just give for example. THRAY. who's at about 119% in quota. yet his XP to cap?? (3rd row from right) is about the same as mine...18 k or somethinG?? yet the last column I am in the millions (or is it billions???) so how can that be? or am I missing the boat on that one again>??? (that could VERY possibly be)

I truely dont mind a little hard work, but this could get nutz really quick. Once the construction season starts, (few weeks no doubt) and my new baby arrives, I really want to stay in the chain, but with numbers like these, its very apparent that 24 million raw, to 6 mill pass up is nearly impossible. Just a thought, but I do hope that panzerfaust or whoever it may be, figures whats going wrong somewhere sooon.

Thanks guys,

Thorgrim

Post by **Panzerfaust** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 10:29 am

Thorgrim,

we looked at your info and you didn't have a full 21 days of data. You didn't hit the 4 billion mark, you just had some empty days in a row there that affected your numbers. If you take a few days off and don't update often, the numbers will get skewed. After a few days of hunting, those zero days will trail off too and the numbers go back up.