attn mgrs need to remove kelsa and fix urbain

grimly fiendish · Post by **grimly fiendish** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 12:39 pm

ok kelsa is fine on quota but urbain isnt because of a page bug but i want to leave urbain in and take kelsa out due to time concerns could you see you way clear to 0 urbains totals when i remove kelsa or will i have to remove urbain due to the bug and leave kelsa in?

btw urbain is a tink and has helped ppl in the guild with a good number of things which is why i want to keep him getting exp

Oof · Post by **Oof** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 5:18 pm

If you leave Kelsa sworn to Urbain (I'm guessing that's the plan?), Urbain's quota can easily be made by you hunting Kelsa and passing that non-chain XP to Urbain.

Here is what the stats page shows now for Urbain:

Urbain Grandier 139 Upload 93.7% 2003-12-04 2 days 499,044,731 602 2,559,967 101,707,351

Is Urbain able to upload to the stats page? I'm not sure what you mean when you asked about resetting his totals, since there are only two days being reported. Assuming Urbain is able to upload to the stats page it is fine to leave him in the chain. It doesn't matter whether Urbain hunts for his quota directly, or whether you hunt a non-chain vassal in order to cause Urbain to pass quota.

Please advise on whether Urbain can update his own stats; he will need to be able to do that in order to stay in the chain.

grimly fiendish · Post by **grimly fiendish** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 6:09 pm

ok here is the deal and i told you guys before about this and your answer was dont worry ya got 21 days to make quota

as we all know everyone lost any cushion they had and went back to 0
after which i added 25 mill pass up on both kelsa and urbain, kelsa showed it and urbain didnt and went into the negitive again i went hunting kelsa gained exp on the listing urbain gained nothing and went farther in to the negitive

urbain has generated around 33-35 mill to the chain but shows at -11.5 mill there is no way i can fix that before the "grace" period is over as im busy till the 2nd of january with work for example ill work 13 hours on christmas eve sleep 4 hours then work a 13 christmas morning

so kelsa is in the clear but ill take her out to keep urbain in who is failing because of 3 back to back acstats problems (ie exp wipe,non registering exp twice)and ask that urbain be set to 0 again seeing as how ive told you of this problem when it was happening

also as a side note while i am busy i can manage to sneak in an hour here or there before bed during lunch break etc on the laptop which is enought o keep one character in the good but not enough to dig urbain out of a hole and keep kelsa produceing a decent amount of exp to the chain while i wait for my free time to come back on the 2nd of january

well that about sums it up if some of it is not clear im sorry but im deadly tired and just staying upright int he chair is a hard task

Oof · Post by **Oof** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 6:24 pm

I remember the problem with Urbain and saying to wait, that the stats would work themselves out (because they typically do). When I looked at the stats page earlier, it only showed two days worth of data for Urbain, with Urbain being down by about 2 million. I apparently had a cached copy of the page loaded, because it is showing stats now to match what you referenced.

Let's do this: Since you stated your preference is to remove Kelsa and leave Urbain in, we will go that route. I don't know if it is possible to reset Urbain's numbers, what is causing the odd numbers in the first place, etc. While I normally wouldn't volunteer myself for extra work in verifying the stats I will in this case. If you remove Kelsa, but stay sworn to Urbain and hunt Kelsa for XP, Urbain should have plenty enough XP passing through to easily make quota. Even if the chain page doesn't accurately reflect that until the bad data (that caused the weird numbers to appear) times out, I can record Urbain's and Kelsa's XP numbers from the regular clan stats page and manually verify that Urbain's numbers are good.

That should get you past the January 2 timeframe. Since you are removing Kelsa in good standing, should you choose to put Kelsa back in the chain after January 2, he will go right back in under Urbain anyway, so there is no loyalty bonus loss for Kelsa. My assumption is that whatever caused the large deficit will naturally time out when the 21 day mark is approached and Urbain's numbers will suddenly look much better, but only the passage of time will show if that is a correct assumption.

I'll post removal orders for Kelsa later today.

grimly fiendish · Post by **grimly fiendish** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 6:38 am

thx and urbain should do fine he will now have all my mains as pushers (kelsa,johann von goethe,grimly fiendish)while i do want to level kelsa i think for the good of the chain and clan a high level tinker will be much better

P.S. ill be online with kelsa thur morning 7am-9amish pst

Vlad · Post by **Vlad** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 6:46 am

with all the chain break the xp flow is really messed up today I only logged on for 1.5million!

Oof · Post by **Oof** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 11:10 am

Aye Vlad, it's kind of messed up right now. We made a couple of moves last night that are working toward getting it put back together. Hopefully, we will finish today, but it depends on who we can catch.

Soon, I hope, and then we can get back to normal chain business.