I think OH quota should be upped

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 4:01 pm

I have to say I agree 110% with DL and Qaz. And I feel sort of sad to hear that someof LD's members have looked past what the chain first started as. A sort of "Casual" chain. However, the competitive side in me, thinks a 3 mill exp raise would be ok. (in agreeance with Heatmiser)

But Pride kicks in, and I think......DAMN. I literally started at the bottom of this chain, and worked my way up to the top 10. I don't want to be booted by some dudes who have a lot of time on their hands and can simply bypass the proper channels to jump up above me. Again, foolish pride, perhaps. But since everyone and their dogs are level 126+. there seems to be a HUGE lack of respect in that context.

Hell, I remember when Trinity Willow was topof our chain. I remember only DREAMING of actually working my way up. I know I'm not the only one who puts a s**t load of time they dont' actually have into the chain
I'm not the only one. I know this. And for anyone who writes back with some smart alec comment about "YOUR IN A CHAIN" STOP WHINNING" should re-think their spots in LD and perhaps apply to a less friendly chain like LSD, or the like.

I'm all for raising quota in 3 million increments. But having an actual 100% pass up chain. LOL its just crazy. As LSD about it. They macro'd 24/7, and their top guy couldn't make quota. So thats about all the math I'll give ya today.

Nobody is whinning here. So dont' start handing out no cheese. But someone else noted all the failings on the chain listings. And they spoke the truth about it. Some peeps just strive to barely pass. While others do more. Pretty shitty when you have to punish other peeps cause ya want more exp's, and have the summer off from school.

Thorgrim

Culticon · Post by **Culticon** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 8:16 pm

Ok its my last time throwin this 100% thing out here in a post lol

Heres the deal I just think the last Dynasty can do a 100% chain and do it better than anone else

And by better I mean with out people Macroing 24/7

I don't UCM and I maintain 100% (easily I might add hehe)

Lol the funny thing is everyone under me but 1 to 2 chars already passin 100% up and maintaning it. The people who are not are above me. Do I really care if I get passed them no. I said it before I not really that greedy I could care less. I want no promotion based upon my ability to earn more than my patron.

I just think people in a chain should have to play more than 1 day every 3 weeks to maintain there standing in the chain.

Just my veiw on it

( lol I know I am crazy now, cause I am not gettin any back up from anyone else. So I am gonna drop it now hehe)

Aero · Post by **Aero** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:07 am

Weill That's progress for you. I have to work 65-70 hours a week during the summer, but I would be happy to do whatever you guys want. Raise it to 50 mil or don't, your choice. When you hunt at VoD for and hour and get 30 mil, 60 will come in 2 hours. Even with my r/l workload and wanting to also do quests and stuff on Ac, I also like the Xp you get at VoD and have the time to get lots more than 2 hours worth.

VoD is a challenging place and I am working to better my character to handle it (moving template around).

I'm with ya!

DL · Post by DL » Sun Jul 20, 2003 8:14 pm

2 hours worth of hunting will NOT produce the xp needed to meet quota if your quota is 50 m.

We are not talking about the amount you earn yourself...we are talking about passup.......there is a HUGE difference between the 2.

Trekman · Post by **Trekman** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 8:21 pm

Aero wrote:When you hunt at VoD for and hour and get 30 mil, 60 will come in 2 hours. Even with my r/l workload and wanting to also do quests and stuff on Ac, I also like the Xp you get at VoD and have the time to get lots more than 2 hours worth.

Well - either I have been totally without luck so far - or I am in a big disadvantage because I play Euro times - or you should put down your pink sunglasses

The last two or three VoD fellowships I attended produced gigantomanic 8-12 mil/h - income, not passup - and included too many corpse recoveries to be efficient.
Mostly because people were running around without a plan, tearing apart the group or totally in panic about certain monsters (I only say : Olthoi Primordials

). And those fellowships contained too many lvl 60-80 who just wanted to get levelled fast by the big guys.

Yes - you *could* make awesome amounts of XP there. But you are very or even too dependent on others - more than in a "conservative dungeon fellowship". Especially a lifemagic-less melee like myself.
Don't get me wrong - that does not mean quota cannot be raised after appropriate considerations.
But it is not as simple as just saying "pah - go to VoD for 3 hours and you have your quota".

Lagmatic · Post by **Lagmatic** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 9:10 pm

We shoudl keep this all in the sticky thread.

DL · Post by DL » Sun Jul 20, 2003 9:26 pm

Oof wants our discussions here and not in the sticky....at least that was how I understood what I read.

The sticky is basically for a yay or nay on a new 15m quota.