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This made me think - what do you think?

Post by thenetworkgod » Thu May 04, 2006 9:31 am

Yes, you need sound and you need to watch it all the way thru.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 01&pl=true

Hmm.

Gets REAL interresting about 30 minutes in. But watch it all through.

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Post by Keebler » Thu May 04, 2006 10:56 am

30 mins in!!! I will wait for the cliff notes :D


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Post by thenetworkgod » Thu May 04, 2006 4:41 pm

Actually - however you look at it - there is some pretty scary stuff uncovered in that documentary. There is a lot about 9/11 that does not "fit in" the official explanations.

Just watch it :)

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Post by Todtstoy » Fri May 05, 2006 9:10 am

all i can say is wow.. i sat and watched it all.. i asked some of the questions myself.. made me see a lot more questions.. hmmm.. sigh.. but what can i do... grrrrr.. maybe after some sleep i can think straight.. sigh.. dang.. thats messed up.. but not unthinkable of the people up there.. sigh.. i am off to sleep.. after praying for souls in torment

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Post by thenetworkgod » Fri May 05, 2006 10:45 pm

Panz; did you watch this yet?

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Post by Panzerfaust » Sat May 06, 2006 1:26 pm

I watched part of it. It's looks like mostly propaganda from sources that have agendas.

The little I did watch had a lot of misinformation and partial quotes from experts.

One example is he states that could not melt Titanium - Pentagon Plane -, which is true, but the motors were made of a Titanium and Steel Alloy, which has a lower melting point than pure Titanium. But, he never mentions that.

That's just one. :)
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Post by thenetworkgod » Sat May 06, 2006 9:03 pm

Panzerfaust wrote:I watched part of it. It's looks like mostly propaganda from sources that have agendas.

The little I did watch had a lot of misinformation and partial quotes from experts.

One example is he states that could not melt Titanium - Pentagon Plane -, which is true, but the motors were made of a Titanium and Steel Alloy, which has a lower melting point than pure Titanium. But, he never mentions that.

That's just one. :)
But a higher melting point than you can create with airplane fuel Panzer...

(BTW: did you kill the tags Panz?)
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Post by Panzerfaust » Sat May 06, 2006 9:30 pm

thenetworkgod wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:I watched part of it. It's looks like mostly propaganda from sources that have agendas.

The little I did watch had a lot of misinformation and partial quotes from experts.

One example is he states that could not melt Titanium - Pentagon Plane -, which is true, but the motors were made of a Titanium and Steel Alloy, which has a lower melting point than pure Titanium. But, he never mentions that.

That's just one. :)
But a higher melting point than you can create with airplane fuel Panzer...

(BTW: did you kill the tags Panz?)

The jet fuel burns hot enough to melt the alloy.

No, I didn't kill the tags. You put the ] and I next to eachother. :)
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Post by thenetworkgod » Sat May 06, 2006 9:43 pm

Panzerfaust wrote:
thenetworkgod wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:I watched part of it. It's looks like mostly propaganda from sources that have agendas.

The little I did watch had a lot of misinformation and partial quotes from experts.

One example is he states that could not melt Titanium - Pentagon Plane -, which is true, but the motors were made of a Titanium and Steel Alloy, which has a lower melting point than pure Titanium. But, he never mentions that.

That's just one. :)

But a higher melting point than you can create with airplane fuel Panzer...

(BTW: did you kill the tags Panz?)

I just clicked the Quote button again and look above...

The jet fuel burns hot enough to melt the alloy.

No, I didn't kill the tags. You put the ] and I next to eachother. :)
1: No it does not.
2: I just clicked the Quote button.

Panzer - explain the 2x 6 ton engines - not a shard from either found? Explain the stock trading and betting days before the incident? Explain why someone calling home from a hijacked plane about to crash tells their mom their FULL name - "Hi Mom. This is John Dallas Jones"... :)

I must admit that I was sceptic at first, but the past days I have been checking alot of facts from that documentary - and alot of the claims they make cannot be disproved.

So ;)

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Post by Panzerfaust » Sat May 06, 2006 10:12 pm

thenetworkgod wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:
thenetworkgod wrote:
But a higher melting point than you can create with airplane fuel Panzer...

(BTW: did you kill the tags Panz?)

I just clicked the Quote button again and look above...

The jet fuel burns hot enough to melt the alloy.

No, I didn't kill the tags. You put the ] and I next to eachother. :)
1: No it does not.
2: I just clicked the Quote button.

Panzer - explain the 2x 6 ton engines - not a shard from either found? Explain the stock trading and betting days before the incident? Explain why someone calling home from a hijacked plane about to crash tells their mom their FULL name - "Hi Mom. This is John Dallas Jones"... :)

I must admit that I was sceptic at first, but the past days I have been checking alot of facts from that documentary - and alot of the claims they make cannot be disproved.

So ;)

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odd, I clicked the quote button too.


There were lost of parts they didn't find. That much fuel coming to a halt that fast will move some metal and keep an awful hot fire contained. Remember, the Pentagon was built with something like this in mind. Typically a plane would plow right through a building and the heat would have been spread over a large area. This is why bodies are still recovered and identifiable.


You can take any stock day and use that for propaganda. There are so many coincidences I could blame you for the rise in interest rates if I looked for the right data. :)

People were scared - people don't act in the same manner when there is anxiety.

That film uses alot of half truths and partial quotes and in many cases wants you to be the expert.

An example: He says a Fox reporter that saw the plane hit the tower didn't look like a commercial airliner - said it didn't have windows and such. What they didn't tell you is that he was at the subway which was a mile away. It would be pretty difficult to identify much of anything from that distance. Keep in mind, eye witnesses are generally confused. I remember in a sociology class in college, a guy ran in to the screaming and yelling and had something in his hand waving around, then ran out.

We all filled out paperwork about what happened. Out of fifty people, only two descriptions were even close. 2/3 of the class said he had a gun (he had a candy bar). Ten said the guy was black (cleary white). And so on...
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Post by thenetworkgod » Sat May 06, 2006 11:44 pm

Panzer, they recovered 0 bodies at Pentagon. There were no marks on the lavn from the crash. The largest part was a tidy piece of side from any plane, and that part had no scratches. If you put your "I like the current administration" aside - there is little proof - or any at all - that a plane crashed into Pentagon.

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Post by thenetworkgod » Sat May 06, 2006 11:47 pm

Panzerfaust wrote:
thenetworkgod wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:
I just clicked the Quote button again and look above...

The jet fuel burns hot enough to melt the alloy.

No, I didn't kill the tags. You put the ] and I next to eachother. :)
1: No it does not.
2: I just clicked the Quote button.

Panzer - explain the 2x 6 ton engines - not a shard from either found? Explain the stock trading and betting days before the incident? Explain why someone calling home from a hijacked plane about to crash tells their mom their FULL name - "Hi Mom. This is John Dallas Jones"... :)

I must admit that I was sceptic at first, but the past days I have been checking alot of facts from that documentary - and alot of the claims they make cannot be disproved.

So ;)

tNg.
odd, I clicked the quote button too.


There were lost of parts they didn't find. That much fuel coming to a halt that fast will move some metal and keep an awful hot fire contained. Remember, the Pentagon was built with something like this in mind. Typically a plane would plow right through a building and the heat would have been spread over a large area. This is why bodies are still recovered and identifiable.


You can take any stock day and use that for propaganda. There are so many coincidences I could blame you for the rise in interest rates if I looked for the right data. :)

People were scared - people don't act in the same manner when there is anxiety.

That film uses alot of half truths and partial quotes and in many cases wants you to be the expert.

An example: He says a Fox reporter that saw the plane hit the tower didn't look like a commercial airliner - said it didn't have windows and such. What they didn't tell you is that he was at the subway which was a mile away. It would be pretty difficult to identify much of anything from that distance. Keep in mind, eye witnesses are generally confused. I remember in a sociology class in college, a guy ran in to the screaming and yelling and had something in his hand waving around, then ran out.

We all filled out paperwork about what happened. Out of fifty people, only two descriptions were even close. 2/3 of the class said he had a gun (he had a candy bar). Ten said the guy was black (cleary white). And so on...
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Post by thenetworkgod » Sat May 06, 2006 11:48 pm

100% mess up - my post is in the middle of a quote?
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